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Thanks Ted! I made the list! I still put in Flux Aeterna every now and then and mp3s of it are in my iPod. I don't know whether or not you've influenced me, but you sure have entertained me. Keep up the loops, Mark Sottilaro On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 01:17 PM, ArsOcarina@aol.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I first heard "live" looping in 1972 by being taken to the home of an > friend of a friend in an old Victorian house in Oxnard, CA. The player > was a mid-to-late-20s-ish hippie guitarist named Randy Jones. I'd > never heard of him before (or since) and I have absolutely no idea > who his musical influences were. He was undoubtedly more influenced > by major doses of cannabis than anything else (but let's not start > THAT particular thread again, please). > > He played an old Strat copy with a mother-of-dinette-set pickguard > and lipstick tube pickups into a pair of reel-to-reels set up on the > mantle over the fireplace. The output of these (such as it was) went > to his home stereo. An approximately 8 foot loop of 1/4 inch tape > was strung between the two recorders and dangled before the empty > hearth -- which would have been quite dangerous if there'd been > a fire in it. > > He played with a bottleneck slide (which I'd been toying with some at > that time too -- and THAT was the whole reason my pal took me over > to hear this fellow play). Anywho, he played medium to pretty well > guitar-wise. But, I was floored . . . absolutely knocked out . . . by > the > delay concept he was toying around with. It was a musical epiphany > that changed my life. > > I set out from then on to learn how to do this sort of thing myself. > I was a shy, reticent young dude and not hardly prone to joining bands > and playing much in public anyway. The simple Idea that I could (by > this > method) be a one-man-band in the comfort and privacy of my own > bedroom closet was what attracted me. That and the all-instrumental > aspect of it -- I still cannot sing and play guitar at all after 40 > years. > (heheh, some would say I still can't PLAY either). > > I saved my money and periodically rented tape "echoplexes" from local > stores, bought electronic analog delays when they became available > and digital ones when they came around and became affordable to me > (mostly EH and old DOD stuff). I never even heard of Fripp's 1973-74 > recordings with Eno 'til I was more financially established (married) > in 1978 and could afford to visit the record store more often. > > I snagged my first copies of "No Pussyfooting" and "Evening Star" > from the cutout bin for less than half normal price. I'd been a fan > of King Crimson and had read about Mr. Eno in magazines but was > not familiar with these recordings at all. They were revelatory, to say > the least -- totally outside the scope of my previous experience > as a lonesome finger picker. I got my first eBow in 1980. > > I've sought out a lot of music since then that I knew was "looped" in > some fashion or another (not all of it guitar). And listened to many > pieces of music that didn't involve looping at all, but (because of the > repetitive and rhythmic nature of pop music) I constantly imagined > just how they could have been realized if they HAD been. > > I never really set out with the expectation that I'd ever really turn > out to be a "real" musician even. Jeff Kaiser put that troublesome > notion in my noggin BTW (blame him). I was just an interested and > quirky tinkerer with only a modest amount of talent, a certain > amount of imagination and time on my hands to develop it (plus > a "mostly" understanding wife and family). > > I still don't really imagine that I'm a whole lot more than that, even > though I have become accustomed to having the "m" word (musician) > applied to myself . . . and occasionally even the "c" word (composer). > I am a visual artist by academic training and a commercial artist/ > graphic designer for 25+ years of my professional life. > > I don't imagine I've been an influence on anybody. But almost everybody > on this list who has bothered to share their music freely and publicly > in this forum or in the various festivals has been an influence on me > -- > whether the influence is obvious or not. In particular I'd single out > LDers > past and present (and in no particular order): > > Andre LaFosse > Rick Walker > Michael Klobuchar > Max Valentino > Steve Lawson > Dave Trenkle > David Torn > Mark Hamburg > Scott Hansen > Dr. Richar Zvonar > Matthias Grob > Jon Wagner > Kim Flint > Amy X Nueberg > Bill Walker > Stan Card > Joe Cavaleri > Greg Campbell > Andy Ewen > Frank Gerace > Tom Heasley > Terry Blankenship > Alan Hoover > Sunao Inami > Zoe Keating > Hans Lindauer > Mark Sottilaro > Cara Quinn > Steven Rice > Alex Martinez > Larry "the O" Oppenheimer > Nick Roozeboom > Kevin Cooney > Stuart Liebig > The Loop Collective > and a host of others . . . > > Thanks a bunch! With all of this talk of who influenced who and when, > I figured it was time to render a certain amount of appreciation > to present company. A number of you have exchanged CDs with me > (often making nice comments about mine) and or exchanged e-mails > on- and off-list. Others have pointed in the direction of where their > music > could be downloaded or streamed from time to time. I may have even > left out a few names. You will have to forgive the omissions and chalk > them up to "old guy's" disease. But I am thankful that LD is here and > that all of you are too . . . corny as THAT may sound. > > Best, > > tEd ® kiLLiAn > > PS: If any of you knows the whereabouts of Randy Jones. I owe him big > time. > > http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html >