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also, I was just thinking, I caught the end of Joshua Redman's set at Bonnaroo this month. Both he and his keyboardist (Sam Yahel) had Repeaters i believe, Joshua's sitting right on top of his rack. however, i did not see them actually use them (i think i got there after the effects freak out). anybody scene them, and can testify to how they use the Repeaters? do they do a lot or a little, to what effect? pretty cool that they're up there at least. i've seen the elastic band before but didn't notice any repeaters at all then (but that was a while ago, before i was a delighted looper). back then though, it seemed redman mostly used his effects for noise-ish type intensity, not really for more musical use....... any thoughts? thanks! dylan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com