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On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > So, why is "Drum & Bass" acceptable as a genre seeing as it excludes a > lot > of people who play either drums or bass and "Live Looping" isn't > acceptable? ah you may want to check out Logical Progression Level Three, which features a drummer, a bass player, and some minor guitar looping in the background. it was on Good Looking Records, and released in 1997 or 1998. there is plenty of music on that dnb label which features live drums and bass. not much looping outside of the one album i pointed out, but i haven't been keeping up. don't forget that there are in fact two _diametrically_ opposed schools of drum'n'bass. there is the dark stuff, which is usually rather abrasive and features very bright highly resonant bass tones and is very closely related to breakbeat and industrial. and then there is "intelligent" (not my term) drum'n'bass, which is more like what guys on Stax records _would_ be doing now if Stax hadn't bit it (that is, futuristic soul music). i think that there are plenty of other dance music genres that looping can work it's way into. are there any dance musicians here? like the kind that play at those parties with the glow sticks and the water bottles. :) --- Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com