Re: Loop Copy (was Newbie question)

[GelRest@aol.com]

Really appreciate the GREAT info Kim.  
It's gonna take me a few days to work on what you've laid out, with all the variations and all. Hmmm  . . .  I've got this national holiday  . . . .
 
The SwitchQuant function seems quite powerful, especially combined with Multiply or Record.

Best
SteveK
www.GelRest.com 

>Now . . . . Loop Copy is not something one can easily do on the fly 
>without an additional midi pedal/controller, right?  Because LC is in a 
>sub-menu.

Kim wrote:

no, LoopCopy is something done on the fly. The only reason to go into the 
parameter menu is to set the LoopCopy parameter, which determines how 
LoopCopy happens, but doesn't execute it.  

There are two primary ways to do LoopCopy. If you set the LoopCopy 
parameter to Sound or Time, the copy will happen automatically anytime you 
switch into an empty loop. (the switching can be done with the NextLoop 
button or Midi triggers.) This way is simple and easy to use, but not so 
flexible.

The second way is to take advantage of the SwitchQuant waiting period for 
quantized loop switching. When you have SwitchQuant set to cycle, loop, or 
confirm, you go into a waiting period after you tell the Echoplex to change 
loops. It then waits for the next cycle, loop point, or confirming action 
before it switches, with the screen showing the loop it is about to switch 
to. During that waiting time you can set the echoplex up to do a variety of 
things immediately when it goes to the new loop. Pressing Multiply then 
tells it to do Sound copy. Insert tells it to do time copy. Record tells it 
to start recording when it gets there. Mute, Overdub, and other such 
functions turn on their usual functions in the new loop. Pressing NextLoop 
lets you select which loop you jump too, so you can jump to any loop 
instead of just the next one. This method gives you ultimate flexibility, 
but it takes a couple button presses and is a bit more complicated. All of 
it can be done with just the standard footpedal and doesn't require midi.

Sound Copy is really the same as doing a Multiply of your starting loop 
into the new loop. Time copy is the same as doing an Insert into the new 
loop. Just as with those functions you can overdub new material while the 
copy is happening, which is very efficient for live use. Also like 
Multiply/Insert, the copy continues to add new cycles until you tell it to 
stop. (you stop the copy with a press of Multiply or Insert, because it 
really is multiply/insert!)

So for example, a 1 bar drum loop in loop 1 can be copied to loop 2 in 
real-time while you overdub an 8 bar verse section. It would all be done 
seamlessly on the fly and only take two button presses, and you never have 
to stop playing. (or 3 presses if you use the switchquant method.)


>   The drum machine(?) could just play and wouldn't have to be looped.

if you are using a drum sequencer for the drums, it seems to me it is much 
easier to just sync it to the midi clock of the looper instead of trying to 
actually record it into the loop.

kim