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> I guess I didn't word that right - - I should have said: Is the front panel > of a factory Loop IV physically the same as an upgraded Loop III machine? > Any new buttons or knobs? For the sake of Clarity, it probably helps to refer to the 'new' EDPs as 'EDP Plus' - that's what it says on the front... but no, there aren't any new buttons, just new functions programmed into some of the other buttons, along with all the old functions as well :o) Steve www.stevelawson.net