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I second the recommendation. I just got the Beat Garden ROM today. It's selling at zzounds for $150. Worth twice the price (which is close to it's normal selling price). Best cymbals I've ever heard on a machine. Maybe the best drums *ever*. I'm seriously loving this box. Sure, it doesn't sample, but I could care less. The wealth of ROM libraries is incredible. My wife said, "Wow, these sounds are a lot warmer than the 307." It's true. I think what turned me off was the bad techno beats it comes with. The on line stuff is truly horrible IMO. Once you dig past that crap you've got an amazing tool. It's UI leaves a bit to be desired, and it's got a steeper learning curve than the Roland and Korg stuff, but the manual is pretty good. If you don't like reading manuals, get something else. If you've got some time to spend, this is the box. The flexibility and sounds are worth the time. Mark Sottilaro On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 08:54 AM, sserendipity wrote: > > Eventually yes, though they usually delay release for a while after > the new > unit comes out. Until then you'ld have to remain 'satisfied' with the > Xl-7 > sounds. May I also recomend the beat garden Rom, for more organic > drums? > > bIz > > ------------ > http://www.groovetronica.com - "The beats are ok, I suppose, but the > vocals > sound like the vintage jazz singers from my dad's record collection. > It's > not for me." > ------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Wiley" <matthewf5@hotmail.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: Grooveboxes > > >> Mark, >> >> so then it would be possible to grab an XL-7 pretty cheap as mentioned >> before and just add the new drum sound ROM? >> >> peace >> -matt >> >>> From: mark <sine@zerocrossing.net> >>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: Re: Grooveboxes >>> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:51:36 -0700 >>> >>> Just what's on their website. Looks like all the other Command >>> Stations >>> without the bright colors and a different ROM. >>> >>> My guess is they'll be selling the rom to people who want to add it >>> to >>> their older Command Stations too. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 05:02 PM, Matthew Wiley wrote: >>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> the one i was asking about is the px-7 command station. do you know >>>> what's up with it? is it just an upgrade, it says new drum >>>> soundset. >>>> >>>> peace >>>> -matt >>>> >>>>> From: mark <sine@zerocrossing.net> >>>>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Grooveboxes >>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:49:42 -0700 >>>>> >>>>> Check out the archives from all last few weeks. We've been talking > about >>>>> them extensively. It's often referred to as the XL-7 (its model > number) >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 02:56 PM, Matthew Wiley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> is the EMU command station something that anyone on the list has >>>>>> much >>>>>> history with? is the unit good for beat making like the Akai MPC > 2000? >>>>>> is it MIDI syncable to the EDP? >>>>>> >>>>>> peace, >>>>>> -matt >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>>>>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >> >> >