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> First, in a perfect world, what would you fantasy mixer be able to do? the basic principle is that for looping using one instrument, and many FX/loopers, you need almost as many auxes as inputs I haven't had time to really work on this question, but here's some of what we like to do, as an example 1) Use 3 FX units, probably with stereo O/P on a couple 2) 2 or 3 looping devices, 2 of which can form a stereo pair 3) feed the O/P from stereo FX into the stereo pair of loopers 4) post process a looper with one of the FX so it's more a routing thing than a mixing thing don't really need EQ much Need quite a few Aux sends! how about 2 stereo and 2 mono Returns 2 stereo 2 mono ...but these should be sendable to the other auxes. Main Output (stereo) on balanced jacks other inputs/outputs on balanced jacks, but must work well if unbalanced jack is used. Could get away with just (stereo) line-in, but otherwise a nice DI input for guitars, and a mic input, both with EQ. (...but no point unless these could be v.high quality) Would all this fit in 1u ? perhaps without the fancy EQed inputs. <A HREF="http://www.behringer.com/02_products/prodindex.cfm?id=RX1602&lang=eng">EURORACK PRO RX1602 :</A> for an example of what this might look like. To reduce the no. of pots, the Aux sends could be switchable. i.e. One pot to send either to Stereo Aux 1 or 2. One pot to send to either mono Aux 3 or 4. the switches could be transparent push buttons with LEDs behind a la behringer. any stereo I/P or O/P should be switchable by the jacks being plugged in so that they function as mono when only one jack is used. to sum up 3 stereo inputs 2 mono inputs 2 stereo aux sends 2 mono aux sends main out or something like that. maybe 2 stereo ip 4 mono ip 1 stereo aux 4 mono aux main out oh ......and duplicate Main out on XLR sound quality would be important, as the signal would go though a lot of stages.. price? for £150 I'd buy straight away if it cost more, then I'd want to know about the sound quality. £300 would be an upper limit. andy butler