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Hello Will, Thanks for the mini treatise on Y-cords and series/parallel routing. This is the main reason I'm on this list, to tap into the collective knowledge of this group. Currently I'm using a Mackie 1604 VLZ as my router/switcher. Not the most economical piece of gear, though it does do most of what I want and need it to do and does so fairly quietly. I'm running a keyboard and various sound modules and/or a guitar through my bank of Electrix gear, including the mighty Repeater. With the flexibility offered by the Mackie, I have separate sends to the Repeater, Mo-FX/Filter Factory, and Warp Factory (stereo source sends and mono formant send). Each unit then comes back into the Mackie on a pair of channels to be rerouted or sent to the main mix. I assume this is what you mean by parallel routing? The fun part is being sufficiently clearheaded to not create electronic feedback (or to do so intentionally) while rerouting stuff live. There are times when I'm playing the mixer and sound manglers as much or more than I'm playing my instrument. Foot pedals are not important to how I work, I prefer the button presses and volume faders to be within easy reach and controlled with my fingers which are far more sensitive and accurate than my feet. Pristine sound is very important. So is multiple routing options. If all this could be found on a compact mixer, that would be great. Something tells me that it can't and that's why I have a 16 channel mixer with multiple sends. <<<<I have to admit, I was a little disappointed in the response to the ultimate mixer question I posted. Isn't there anyone that wants hassle free control over their live remix?>>>> Short of hauling the extra gear to gigs and rehearsals, this is a pretty hassle free setup. If there are less expensive or more compact ways of doing the same thing, I'd love to hear about them. Stephen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com