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Ultimate ears are really the way to go. Expensive. About $1500 for a wired setup, but you'll be glad you did in 5-20 years when you can still hear! As far as feeling disconnected, try placing a microphone to pickup the audience/surrounding area and mix that into your feed. It really helps to alleviate that boxed in feeling! Oh, the full soft option is a must! Respect Will Brake Soul Fruit Electronics -----Original Message----- From: Jim Palmer [mailto:jimp@pobox.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: headphones i'm using iem's that are molded to my ear. they provide 25db of isolation and can get loud enough to cause hearing damage if you are not careful. (a limiter is basically mandatory). they cost about ~$700, though... you can get the one-size-almost-fits-all foam ones much cheaper but you won't get as much isolation, and they are not quite as comfortable. i haven't played a live gig with them yet, but i have heard there can be a bit of a disconnect with the audience. i've worn foam earplugs at shows and didn't have that problem, so i'm not going to worry about it. for drummers, i don't think that would be a problem, since they are busy drooling out of the side of their mouths anyway... > i think IEMs are the proper solution...anybody got a > particular pair they like. i'd like to spend no more than > 200 bucks, preferably less, but i don't want to buy total crap. > > -jim > >