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Duncan, Have you ever come across a Serge 16 stage sequencer? Now manufactured by Sound Transform Systems. No website, though there is an unofficial site called EGRES (which is Serge spelled backwards). Like most real tools, this one will not do what you want it to, rather it sits you down and takes you on a really wild joy ride, one that you'll never forget. This little unit can do things that NO computer has yet to shake a stick at. It outputs CV only, and takes trigger inputs. MIDI to CV modules are readily available as well. I used to work with Serge back in the 70's. I swear that music took a giant step backwards when digital *everything* came around. Not because of digital per se, rather the brainwashing that lulled most of the world into forgetting that what we have right in front of us works in ways that digital can't, won't, and probably never will. Stephen <<<<only, last night I had an old roland sequencer (model 104) hooked up to a little moog (modified rogue) and running into an mm4 and a dl4. it was totally addictive. I had forgotten how much fun it could be having the delay repeats slightly unsyncopated with the step sequencer- these days it's all midi-locked effects devices and distributed timing data round our house; this was like going back to tape-delay. I'm in the middle of designing my own analogue step sequencer, because all the ones I've bought have some shortcoming or other- they seem to be intended for users who prefer to prepare sequences rather than alter them in real-time, or they are lacking in some fundamental way. the best of the lot, the latronic notron, has a quirky interface, dodgy hardware and is currently unsupported. so I'm designing a simple 8-step device that will derive it's master clock from midi or it's own lfo, that will allow skip and reset functions and that can perform double/triple triggering so that a given step can be made to trill instead of just sounding once. if this all works out, it'll be built-in to the aforementioned moogette and I'll start on a 16 step version for my pro-1. bip bip b-b-bip bip. duncan. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com