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I'm sorry after sending my last message i received the digest and realised that the discussion has gone further. Of course mine was just the report of a very common experience for people like me who started their musical instruction in accademic institutions. I'll never stop to be astonished when a see that someone who studied piano (or any other instruments) for ten years cannot do nothing else with his instrument that's not an exercise of memory and technic. Most of the people who studied music is in this situation. On the other hand I'd like to point the fact that in many languages "to play" means both "playing an instrument" and "playing a game" - jouer (Fr), spiele (Ger) - : a fact that's surely much more that a mere coincidence (as you see there're no common roots in the three words). b:k Ps: in italian to play is "suonare" which is more related to the acoustic experience and meaning (same latin root of words as sound etc.). This doesn't sound well to me!