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Line6 DL4. The Headrush can't do it. There are in fact only a few things the Headrush does which the DL4 can't do. One are the four separate outputs of the Headrush (which come in handy if you want to use different effects on the different echo taps - but you'd need a big big mixer or a patchbay or a setup which limits you in your flexibility for this), the other one is of course the maximum delay time of ~21s... For Dub echoes, there is nothing better than the DL4, period. If you can get your fingers on one to try it out, give both the Roland Space Echo and the proprietary "Sweep Echo" a try! Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de The Straschill Family Group - www.straschill.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de Eclectic Blah - www.eblah.de > -----Original Message----- > From: ishq [mailto:ishq@ishq.org] > Sent: Samstag, 9. August 2003 12:05 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re:cheap tape echo > > > Hi, > > can anyone recommend a small and relatively portable > pedal size ?) > unit for doing dub like tape echos and feedback > loops....seems a lot to > choose from....i just want something i can plug a samll synth > into and do > good Dub echos and mad fx...pitching crazy loops maybe . . > .but above all > portable and able to entertain me on stage ! > > cheers, > > matt > >