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I think what you've got is a case of champagne taste and beer budget. And these college kids with nice guitars and amps, and effects, but no cash for an EDP or Repeater....? Like they're never going to spend more money on gear? Please. If they can afford to go to college, they can find the money for and EDP (or a Repeater)...if they really want one. If they're just dilettantes who think it sounds like a "cool idea", well I think it'd be cool to have a car that goes 0-60 in 5 seconds, but I'm not going to whine about how I can't find one for under a thousand dollars. Tools cost money. TravisH On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 10:52 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 05:55 PM, Travis wrote: > >> But, if you can't stand it, you can't stand it. Still, I don't think >> $1600 for stereo EDPs is that much, if you're seriously making music >> in a commercial context. > > Ah, here in lies the point. Commercial context. I have no desire to > try and turn my art into money. Tried to do it before and only became > sad and angry. I loop pretty much for me. If I can find people who > enjoy it, that's great, but I'm not counting on it to pay the bills. > > So, what I'm saying is that I am typical, not the professional > musician. I think Rick Walker might be the closest person here to > making their living doing looping, and I know he has to supplement > that with lessons and more standard fare in his shows. The reason I > don't balk about my Photoshop license (of course this wouldn't be the > forum anyway) is because I do make a living using that tool. My music > only costs me money. I'm not complaining, I like it this way. > > When I bought an amp from some college kids, I saw they both had DL4s > and we started talking about looping. They were really interested in > learning about different looping devices. At the time the Repeater > was still in production. I told them about the Repeater and the EDP > and when I hit them with the price tags, they both looked deflated. > They had blown their cash on nice instruments and amps, and didn't > have much left over for a looper that was between $600 and $800.