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My rent is $1400 a month and my wife's job has her at part time at a fraction of what she made before the bubble burst. That's what happened. Causes me to look a lot harder at a piece of gear than I did when money was flying out of venture capitalist's butts. I know it seems like I buy stuff, but it's funded mostly through ebay sales of things I got when the economy was better. I'm more leaning my gear than anything else these days. I'm lucky to have made some money of some of my sales. I was smart to invest in gear instead of tech stocks I guess. Mark Sottilaro On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 12:00 AM, | SquidLoop | wrote: > I always trip out on people who say that can't afford anything - > whatever happened to SAVING UP :) > > > > :::-----Original Message----- > :::From: Travis [mailto:tiktok@sprintmail.com] > :::Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:56 PM > :::To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > :::Subject: Re: Stereo EDP > ::: > :::I think what you've got is a case of champagne taste and beer > budget. > ::: > :::And these college kids with nice guitars and amps, and effects, but > no > :::cash for an EDP or Repeater....? Like they're never going to spend > :::more money on gear? Please. If they can afford to go to college, > they > :::can find the money for and EDP (or a Repeater)...if they really want > :::one. If they're just dilettantes who think it sounds like a "cool > :::idea", well I think it'd be cool to have a car that goes 0-60 in 5 > :::seconds, but I'm not going to whine about how I can't find one for > :::under a thousand dollars. Tools cost money. > ::: > :::TravisH > ::: > :::On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 10:52 PM, > :::Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > ::: > :::> On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 05:55 PM, Travis wrote: > :::> > :::>> But, if you can't stand it, you can't stand it. Still, I don't > think > :::>> $1600 for stereo EDPs is that much, if you're seriously making > music > :::>> in a commercial context. > :::> > :::> Ah, here in lies the point. Commercial context. I have no desire > to > :::> try and turn my art into money. Tried to do it before and only > became > :::> sad and angry. I loop pretty much for me. If I can find people > who > :::> enjoy it, that's great, but I'm not counting on it to pay the > bills. > :::> > :::> So, what I'm saying is that I am typical, not the professional > :::> musician. I think Rick Walker might be the closest person here to > :::> making their living doing looping, and I know he has to supplement > :::> that with lessons and more standard fare in his shows. The reason > I > :::> don't balk about my Photoshop license (of course this wouldn't be > the > :::> forum anyway) is because I do make a living using that tool. My > music > :::> only costs me money. I'm not complaining, I like it this way. > :::> > :::> When I bought an amp from some college kids, I saw they both had > DL4s > :::> and we started talking about looping. They were really interested > in > :::> learning about different looping devices. At the time the > Repeater > :::> was still in production. I told them about the Repeater and the > EDP > :::> and when I hit them with the price tags, they both looked > deflated. > :::> They had blown their cash on nice instruments and amps, and didn't > :::> have much left over for a looper that was between $600 and $800. > ::: > ::: > >