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Hi gang, I read my good friend Per Boysens complaints about the Max/MSP bi platform licensing and, being a friend also, of Cycling 74 owner, David Zicarelli, I fired off a letter to him warning him that this critique was in the wind of the truly amazing and powerful Max/MSP software. Anyway, he wrote me back and said that upon rereading the website that he felt that their text was potentially misleading. Here Per, and everyone, is the skinny from the horses' mouth. "For $29, any current Mac Max/MSP user can get a cross-platform license. The cross-platform license is free to anyone who purchased the software after July 1, 2003. Anyone, as of now, who buys Max/MSP gets a cross-platform license. We allow authorizations of up to two machines, more in special circumstances. You can choose whether to authorize two Macs, two PCs, or one of each." Just thought you should know. For those of you who don't, Max/MSP is an object oriented software that allows for incredible sound design work. It is very , very deep and yet you can get great results from it the first time you use it. Being a minion of the evil Gates empire (just can't afford that titanium G5 powerbook unfortunately) I was thrilled to hear that the software was available bi-platform. Now, if Cycling 74 would just release the amazing RADIAL (loop manipulation software) and JITTER (video/loop manipulation software) and Pluggo (more mangling fun in plug in form that should be legal) I would be the happiest PC dude in the universe. later, Rick