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David Swain <snip> if i saw something advertised as a 'loop show' i would expect to see the looping done, sorry if i was unclear on this. I agree with you it doesn't have to be obvious, maybe it the 'technical' side of my brain kicking in .......... I was always one of those kids that had to get my toys in peices to see how it worked, i guess some things never change. [Clayton Gary Lehmann] People listen with their eyes--I bet even blind people do this, they aim their face toward the sound. Give em' a show--but don't hurt yourself. Gary