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>If everyone's supposed to be keeping time for themselves, why is it so >particularly important for the drummer to be able to hear the loop? > >TravisH >>>>That's one school of thought. The other school of >>>thought (that the >>>>drummer has the primary [not sole] responsibility >>>of keeping time for the >>>>rest of the band) has many more adherents, at >>>least in North America. My point was not that everyone should "keep time for themselves", but rather be RESPONSIBLE for keeping time for themselves. A musician uses a metronome as a learning tool, but does not (hopefully) seek to play "metronomically". It is unfair for drummers to be used a "band metronomes", and unfair, and unmusical, for other musicians to "rely" on them as such. Certainly, while playing, we all listen to and respond to other players' phrasing, note selection, time, cadence etc. This is all part of the inner dialogue of music. To assign the role of "timekeeper" to a member would inhibit this converstaion, as well as limit the other players' ability to grow. Yet, drummers', due to the nature of their instrument and their training, are certainly more "aware" or sensitive to changes in tempo and time, and perhaps become the tempo "monitor"; the first to fire off any warning flares when things become a little too spongy. Rhythm is not a static event, but rather is filled with ebbs and flows, expansion and contaction, speeding up and slowing down. By maintaining one's own responsibility to the "time" an entire ensemble can live and breathe as on, musically. When using loops, the band can simultaneously play with and against the loop while maintaing as sense of time and tempo. And, in my post, I point out that an essential is a good and complete monitor system. The loop has to be treated as another instrument which is audibly available to all, not just an effect of whomever is triggering it. When I work with bands, and use loops, I often run a seperate monitor mix off my rig, with nother power amp and monitor speakers, to the various corners of the stage just for loop monitoring. WHen everyone can hear a part clearly they can play to it, with it and for it. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental