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On the broader front, the Echo Pro could have been such a cool box. It has a number of near misses, however. These are shared or more so with the DL-4. For example: * It's got enough memory for 60 seconds of loop time and it supports stereo delays, so why not 30 seconds of stereo looping? * No feedback control in the looper (widely complained about before) * How about longer delay times and a hold feature for the other delays? It would be great to use some of the grungier echos on either Line6 unit as a form of looper, but I need a way to hold it occasionally. Sometimes, Line6 reminds me of Roland for their ability to come close but then miss the mark. (The HandSonic is a classic Roland example.) Line6 writes better manuals, however. Mark