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Welcome to the internet. A forum where you can't see any of the other contributers is ripe with this kind of behavior. However, while we all go Off Topic (often a lot), I think the reason that you're getting an especially rude reaction is because this is the first and only post any of us have ever seen from you. Perhaps if you had introduced yourself, described how your loop setup works or what you're doing with loops and your music and THEN asked if any of us knew of a Warr for sale you would have received a much better and more helpful response. I get pissed at people who yell at me for being off topic every now and then (ok, maybe a lot) because I've been typing volumes about looping and looping gear on this list since 1994. Think of it in terms of a party. Would you walk into a party where you didn't know anyone and ask if anyone was selling a Warr guitar? Nope. Even if you knew it was populated by a lot of musicians, you'd first try to strike up general conversations with the people at the party based on what they were already talking about and *then* maybe interject that you were looking for a certain instrument. Walking into a party and interrupting the conversation with your specific agenda is.. well plain and simply rude. You can't change the world, but you can change yourself. Frankly, if you became one of the people who only made random off topic posts I'd probably eventually just set up an email filter to not have to deal with you. Maybe rude, but time effective. No one here really owes you anything, so maybe you'd be better off thinking about what you can give before you ask for what you can get. Mark Sottilaro On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, at 02:19 AM, Amy Mucero wrote: > I find that some people are very rude here