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At 01:04 AM 10/8/2003 +0900, Sunao Inami wrote: >Hi Dylan, > >Sounds are some different, but Access Programmer is very useful and >rare.. >and it can recording SysEx data by real time.turning knob is non stress >for making sounds.. Oooh, good point! I'd overlooked it in the original post, but if you ever wanted to turn the 1000+Programmer back around, you could probably pick up most of the total purchase price on the Programmer alone. One related caveat which affects both the 1000 & 6r, however. They don't like having their parameters tweaked in realtime via sysex. I've done this via both Fadermaster and sequencer merely to manually control the filter cutoff, and it results in some 'zipper noise' and stuttering within that parameter. It won't crash the machine or anything, it just sounds weird. Not entirely uninteresting, but not what I was going for either (if you're into Glitch you may feel differently). Perhaps the Programmer has a way around this, although I think the problem is actually related to how fast the CPU within the Matrix can update itself. So test before you buy, and see if it's going to be a deal breaker. As I said, I've heard this complaint from owners of both the 1000 and the 6r, so I don't think you're going to get an advantage here of one over the other. -c- _____ "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back" -recoil