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Tim, I'm not talking about apathy, but my ideas, it seem, show up as that from your perspective... Comparing someones input into a mailing list and the process of electing a president seems a bit of a stretch for me, but if you view Mark's disparagging(sp?) remarks as equivilent to electing a political official, then I can see why you would be so passionate in your repsonse... I guess this brings up how our responses are dictacted by the level of importance we give the 'event'... which helps me to clarify what I am saying, ignoring someones negative comments, by simply seeing them as thier opinion, and not feeling the need to change thier opinion, is freeing... we don't end up exercising all these negative feelings in responding... we have more time to do what we enjoy, and well, we would certainly have more time to give to more important (from my perspective) issues such as electing political officials, or, in the context of this email list, discussing looping... :) -cpr >-- Original Message -- >From: Fsksync@aol.com >Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:58:51 EDT >Subject: Re: Chris Roberts responds to the sound of a bell and expects a >scoobie snack >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >Yes, apathy makes the world go 'round. Apathy put a moron like George W. >Bush >in the White house, and the horror, degradation and loss of freedom >(personal, economic) that ensued is just peachy. >Yes, just ignore injustice~ it'll just go away, right? Leave it to some > >other guy to deal with, some other day... >What a load of rubbish. So typical in this day and age. >I choose a different, CONSCIOUS future. Your mileage, and your just >desserts > >may vary. > >Tim > > >In a message dated 10/7/03 9:42:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >cpr@musetrap.com > >writes: > >> giving time to something gives it life... ignoring it kills it, relative >> to the person ignoring it... this is all my opinion... cause I have >one.. >> hehe.. I find value in this list... I take in what I need, add what >little >> I can, and ignore the bullshit... >> >> -cpr >> >> >-- Original Message -- >> >From: Fsksync@aol.com >> >Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:48:21 EDT >> >Subject: Re: Chris Roberts responds to the sound of a bell and expects >> a >> >scoobie snack >> >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> > >> >Well blah blah blah, peace &love, but when someone says "Fuck You!" to >> >> >another member that is a personal attack and wouldn't be tolerated on >any >> >other >> >list I've ever been a member of. Mark would have been booted off long >ago >> >for his >> >bullshit. And I believe this was the second time he piled onto Jeff (who >> >I >> >consider a friend) for no reason. Some of you should "pull your head out" >> >and >> >deal with reality here- as long as this kind of behavior is allowed to >> continue, >> > >> >this list is essentially Mark's, and not the "community"'s (whatever that >> > >> >is). Wrong is wrong. Ignoring wrong makes you wrong too. >> > >> >Tim >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >In a message dated 10/6/03 4:57:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >> cpr@musetrap.com >> > >> >writes: >> > >> >>Sorry if this seems way off, but from the outside, you guys all seem >> pretty >> >>funny.. :) between virtual yelling and the implied 'waaaaa's it's all >> >> >>somewhat >> >>silly when coming from adults... I think it's best to remember that >> opinions >> >>are like assholes... everyone has one... ok, except maybe for victims >> of >> >>those severe accidents which result in the loss of the entire bottom >> half >> >>of thier bodies... ;) BUT, they still can have opinions... and, as I >> have >> >>an opinion, I don't believe that our opinions about 'what is looping' >> or >> >>'what gear is best' or 'whether someone needs a metronome' (hehe) >should >> >>include insults... is it not possible to disagree without belittling >> the >> >>person(s) you disagree with? hmmm... maybe not.. and, well, for me, >> "that's >> >>ok"... :) I hope everyone can adopt the advice given over and over again >> >>in regards to ignoring the stuff that doesn't sit well with you, and >> >> >>participating >> >>in the stuff that does... blah.. blah.. blah... :) >> >> >> >>peace >> >>-cpr >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >