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Michael Peters posited: maybe we should discuss this off-list before Kim hits us :-) **I don't think so--I think Kim encourages all manner of polite discourse (oops, just spoke for somebody else again--dang!) I for one have benefitted from this discussion of online manners and what makes one angry and why-- Hats off to Rick Walker for having a level head and still liking me since I have jumped off the bandwagon for this weekend--my bad-- Gary