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Perhaps there is a musical analogue to this - improvising musicians often tend to unconsciously fall back on repetitive patterns (nothing to do with looping), which are 'tried and tested' i.e. confortable idioms, riffs, chord structures etc. I would suggest that this is the musical equivalent of verbal filler - phrases like 'now what I mean', and another one which I've noticed recently in UK 'yeh, no' preceding a statement... I went to see Robert Fripp play at the Purcell Rooms in London a few years back. He was playing for free in the foyer, so I went for 2 days running. The thing that hit me most was that he managed to almost completely avoid the standard riffing and cliche that is so much part of a musicians language. He did start playing what could loosely be called a standard 'guitar solo' over one loop, but it was a momentary lapse. It takes a lot of discipline to avoid this kind of stuff, both verbally and musically. Paul On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:07 pm, Aptrev@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/20/03 2:26:10 AM, spgoodman@earthlight.net > writes: > > << Anyway! Ya know what I'm sayin'? Okay. >> > > In a way, these are like loops eh? A word like ok or anyway after > every other > sentence would be sort of like a "glitch" loop. > Rhythmic iterative patterns perform a linking function that are part > of an > individual's sense of flow. Partly it may be a fear of using > pause/silence for > emphasis, so the repeated words are there for continuity and > sustaining the > thought constructs as well as "holding the floor". > > There is an artist who is using software to remove language from > speech so > that you can hear what is between the words : sighs, clicks, rumbles > etc. These > also appear in repetitive looping patterns. I don't have the url handy > but it > is called Language Removal Services and there are audio clips, a > search at > www.npr.org or google should bring it up. > > BobC > > visit: www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier > > > > The Thumb Piano Project > www.mp3.com/thumbpianoproject > http://trundlebox.iuma.com > http://brokenaxe.iuma.com > >