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man, you are the second guy to mention my gain stages. i guess i'll have to go home and tweek that stuff some more to see if i'm missing something. say, are you fellows using a compressor on the input of the thing? maybe that's my problem. lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Barrs" <mbarrs@nightviewer.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:42 AM Subject: RE: evangelize EDP please > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lance Chance [mailto:lrc8918@louisiana.edu] > > > > don't get me wrong, i love my repeater and the project that i'm working on > > right now features it as a main piece. > > i see your points about controller issues. i do like the > > integrated nature > > of the direct pedal plug and dedicated foot controller, but for different > > controllers it all works out to be the same. > > however, my unit does have a cfc "tick" and, for me, between the operating > > noisefloor and peak values, i would say that i probably have about 4db of > > boogie room. i don't know, my edp seems wider that that, > > somehow. > > If you only have 4db of headroom in your Repeater, then maybe you don't have > your input and output levels set right? The Repeater is very sensitive to > gain staging. It can sound like crap if you don't nail the levels just > right. Once you do get it dialed in, it's a reasonably quiet unit with > enough headroom to work with. > > > there > > is also a warmth to the sound of an edp that seems lacking in the > > repeater. > > it sort of sounds like the repeater is "mpeg-ing" everything and you >can > > hear the packets being delivered. > > I won't argue with that. The Repeater doesn't have the best A/D-D/A > converters in the world. > > <snip the rest> > > The reason I bought a Repeater, and the reason I stay with it, is that it's > a great song writing tool as well as a looper. I have four tracks to work > with. I can save my loops and fool around with them on my PC. I can > experiment with chord progressions with lead lines on a separate track. It's > the perfect bridge between a multitrack recorder and a looper (it's both!). > > I realize other people/loopers may not be thinking this way, and may be more > into a live performance thing. If I didn't care about using the Repeater as > a scratch recorder for song ideas as well as a looper, then I'd be using the > Echoplex. > > -- > Mike Barrs >