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In response to the current thread about comparing the EDP apple with the Repeater orange... well I guess this topic hasn't arisen in over a year so why not take a whack at it... :) The two devices are based on very different technology, each unit approaches seemingly simliar tasks in very different ways. The thing about it is that there are some functions that are identical or very nearly similar on the two boxes. They both radically depart from each other pretty early on. One of the big similarities concerns the loop starting point and the seamlessness of the EDP vs. the artifact created by the Repeater. Also that with the EDP, you can go immediately from recording your first loop to overdubbing without the obligatory 1 second wait that must be observed with the Repeater. This all stems from the difference in design architecture and I feel it is important to keep this in mind. One architecture allows an enormous number of possibilities along several paths, while the other architecture allows another enormous number of possibilities along several other paths. I own a Repeater and not the EDP. So I am very familiar with the quality of sound of the one and not the other. I hear a degradation of sound in the Repeater, though with proper gain staging, it is very slight. I have heard the EDP in several different situations, one of them being in one of my bands where the guitarist uses one quite often. Every time I've heard the EDP, my sense is that the quality of reproducing a sound is much lower than the Repeater. I wouldn't like to make this a hard and fast judgement because I've never worked with it myself. Certainly I could do the necessary optimizations to pull the maximum tone out of the EDP and get a real sense of it's quality of sound? Has anyone else done this and what do you have to report? My sense is that the EDP sucks tone more than the Repeater. A loss of high end while adding a digital harshness is what I've observed from the EDP. I'd love to hear that it's just improper gain staging and that it can really sound nice after all. A point about the Repeater that I have come to enjoy more and more (and really a point about the entire line of Electrix gear), is the incredibly well thought out front panel. Even a step above the rest of the Electrix line, the Repeater has such a nice feel to it. The raised silver section around the transport controls has these great details: Physical barriers between the reverse and stop buttons and the play and record buttons to discourage sloppy or inaccurate presses, indented undo, copy, and replace buttons to also encourage accuracy, very logical arrangement and flow of the panel overall, without an overwhelming variety of "press and hold these three buttons with your left hand while moving this fader with your nose and turning that fader with your johnson to get such and such special functions...", crystal clear understanding at a glance of what's going on throughout the system at a given moment. Andre LaFosse is a great example of someone who has gone in depth with the EDP and allows the tool to inform his own playing style and musical output. I use the Repeater in a similar way. It is so difficult to compare them. Though it seems to be pretty easy to want something to be what it's not. Like any tool, I'd encourage you to look at each piece of gear as containing it's own particular qualities and mysteries. It is then up to you to unlock for yourself some of what is available. Depending on who you are and how you work and where you want to go, each tool will work differently for each person. I work in an improv trio (two keyboardists and one guitar). The Repeater almost never comes into play because the sound is already rich and full enough. If that trio ever works as a duo (which happens often enough), the Repeater gets quite a workout. I rely on it to provide that extra layer of sound which I can rest on and do other things. And in a solo context, it becomes an essential and well used friend. Stephen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/