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I'm using sus unrounded multiply, and creating smaller loop lengths from a larger one. Then, I'll undo, and window through the material and then remultiply larger loop lengths again. -still using sus unrounded multiply. I can then window through that by again, using undo. Does this make sense? This isn't the only way to do this, but it's just the way I usually do. I'm not sure what type of multiply you're using, and how you're using it. Kim or Andre, or others may know more about your particular event. -Best of luck, and have a great night, if I can be of any more help, lemme' know. Smiles, Cara --- View my online portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/model_list.cfm?ID=52516 -Last updated on Fri. 10.31.03 "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates Please visit BadFiction and The Guitar Cafe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/badfiction http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe