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Yup, that's definitely the first step. I was in a real hurry last night and didn't follow my own rules on fault-finding!! I'd carefully remove all socketed chips including the memory, clean any contacts that look tarnished and see if that cures the problem. If not, let me know, (off-list if you like) and I'll suggest other things to try. -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Ray Lucas [mailto:jlucas@neoprimitive.net] Sent: 07 November 2003 01:41 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex problems I was going to suggest opening the Echoplex and re-seating the Loop3.5 chip. But, Andy Ewen probably knows best. -Jesse