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<snip> Apparently, 2 people do use the device for looping... One is Steve Lawson, and the other is.... YOU! :) ---->Which is what I thought, so that's . . . one person actually using the Jamman in it, 'cause I gave up. I use the delays in it for "fake looping" . . . it will sync to the MIDI clock of the Echoplex . . . so maybe that counts . . . Or, actually, sometimes I will start with the long delay line, and then "print" to the EDP--but not much-- OK, enough, I'm gone for the weekend--I look forward to a hundred loop list emails when I return . . . Gary PS Stanitarium has some cool shit! G