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been to two of these gigs now (with a third one coming up on Saturday) - blimey, what an amazing band! The first half of the set is pretty hard going (5 saxes often playing very very densely written polytonal/atonal stuff), but it's a really really powerful sound, and the second half is mindblowing - first up the Arte Saxophone Quartet playing one of Tim's pieces, then Tim's quintet with Torn, Ducret, Taborn and Rainey (Tom, not Chuck).... incredible band. Ducret has an unbelieveable sense of rhythm, and Craig Taborn's left hand is now one of my fave bass players... :o) On the loopage front, Torn's doing a few bits of guitar atmospherics, and also looping and repeaterizing the saxes to great effect (and obviously, thanks to the live mics, is getting the rest of the band as well). Tuesday's and Wednesday's gig sounded very different - probably the switch from concert hall to rock club... see you in Birmingham, if you're going Steve www.stevelawson.net (new guestbook/forum here)