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Daniel Zachary wrote: "Oh and I love drum machine's coldness" Ironically, Daniel, I , too, love the coldness of drum machines at times. I've even gone so far as constructing an acoustic drum set that sounds as much as possibly like a Roland TR808. In concert with my wife's beautiful, melancholic and extremely minimal songs , I try to play as perfectly and mechanically as possible to simulate a drum machine or a perfect loop. I've even constructed a kit with three very tight 6", 8" and 10" snares so that I can do buzz rolls that sound like playing up and down the keyboard sampler in Drum and Bass and with 16" crappy old 1960's japanese crash cymbals and an incredibly detuned 14" X 10" ludwig snare with a flappy 26" kick to simulate pitching down an octave to get trip hop simulations. Oddly, though, I don't like it when people try to make drums sound realistic and they are far off the mark. Queer, isn't it? yours, Rick