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RE: King crimson stuff



Okay you gearheads you gave me some more Gas I might just have to look into
this French Toast toy (certainly cheap enough).The Danelectro sounds 
cheaper
then building your own and the circuitry in the original certainly wasn't
all that advanced or that good sounding through the Fender Twin I ran it
through then ;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg House [mailto:ghunicycle@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 5:33 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: King crimson stuff


I've heard that the relatively inexpensive Danelectro French Toast was
designed to sound like the Foxx Tone Machine. I enjoy using mine sometimes,
but I've never played a real FTM to compare it to.

Greg


--- stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote:
> here is a quote from Guitar Player jan.'84:
> AB describing his onstage/studio equipment p.80-
> ...number 3 is my Foxx[Tone Machine]fuzztone. That's the sound in "Big 
> Electric Cat" and "Paint the Road". "i always use it w/ the high 
> octave sustain switch on. its my favorite effect, and not an easy one 
> to find these days. i'm also daisy-chaining the Foxx-tone into an MXR 
> 10-band graphic equalizer so that i can eq it." i know i'm getting 
> into minutia here but AB is/was a great looper guitar guy,so...
> s
> 
> > I had always been under the assumption that he got the octave sound 
> > out of the GR300 myself but, since someone brought up the 
> > possibility of the Foxx Tone Machine. I got to thinking that it 
> > could possibly be that or maybe he just conciously or unconciously 
> > modeled his GR patch around the FTM sound or something like it. The 
> > tune I was thinking about was Paint The Road from Twang Bar King.
> > 
> > Thanks Guys
> > Another Belewaholic ;D
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
> > 
> > 
> > At one point in the early 80's, and memory fails me when exactly, AB 
> > had an Ibanez HD1000 Harmonizer Harmonics Delay.  I remember talking 
> > about it with, and buying one from, Reeves Gabrels when he was 
> > working at Wurlitzer on Newbury Street back in 1986.
> > 
> > The Roland GR300 of that era also would create pitch-shifted tones 
> > +/- octaves
> > 
> > And then AB also is a superlative slide-guitar player, and he would 
> > often go beyond the fretboard.
> > 
> > I hope that helps.
> > 
> > David Kirkdorffer
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alan Kroeger" <nospam@developsolutions.com>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: King crimson stuff
> > 
> > 
> >> Red? Hmm!, the one I had in the 70's was blue (maybe there was 
> >> another version or it was customized) but, I did love that thing 
> >> (it still had a slightly ugly fuzz sound) the octave thing was cool 
> >> (wish I still had it $$$). Do you think that was what he was using 
> >> to get those sounds on Lone Rhino and/or Twang Bar King? I ain't 
> >> much for persuing those trivia details ;D
> >> 
> >> Heres a pic the same as the one I had 
> >> http://www.tonefrenzy.com/2/images/gear/fox_tonemachine1%20copy.JPG
> >> 
> >> I might have to think about duplicating this on one of my DSP boxes 
> >> cause
> > it
> >> is cool sounding.
> >> 
> >> Some circuits that supposedly replicate it 
> >> http://www.runoffgroove.com/ftm.html
> >> http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/ftm.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: stanitarium@earthlink.net [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:40 PM
> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
> >> 
> >> 
> >> hey bein a belewaholic since the 80s maybe i know...
> >> every interview in print that i have from the days of elephant talk 
> >> adrian talks about his 'foxx tone machine' for those upper octavee 
> >> thingees-it works like the roger mayer 'octavia'-fuzz plus octave. 
> >> and its red and
> > fuzzy
> >> :-)
> >> s
> >> 
> >>> No Harmonizer - He just uses the guitar to really get up there - 
> >>> you should try to locate the Live in Mexico official bootleg - he 
> >>> does a killer high pitched distorted feedback squeal solo on 
> >>> "Three of a Perfect Pair" - and if you can find the old video he 
> >>> made in the 80's you can see how he gets a lot of his sound with 
> >>> minimal effects although his rack at that time was the size of a 
> >>> fridge :)
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: L. Angulo [mailto:labalou2000@yahoo.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:18 AM
> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>> Subject: RE: King crimson stuff
> >>> 
> >>> hes obviously also using some sort of harmonizer to
> >>> get those really high pitched notes but what intrigues
> >>> me is that you cannot hear the artifacts you usually
> >>> hear from such devices
> >>> louie
> >>> --- Glenn Poorman <glenn.poorman@autodesk.com> wrote:
> >>>> I think that second solo is pure guitar with some
> >>>> good
> >>>> fat distortion and compression.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Glenn
> >>>> 
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: L. Angulo [mailto:labalou2000@yahoo.com]
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM
> >>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanx Caleb
> >>>>> Yes i am aware that they both used Roland synths
> >>>> and
> >>>>> in Elephant talk is really clear the synth solo
> >>>> from
> >>>>> fripp but the second solo is the one that
> >>>> intrigues
> >>>>> me...
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Louie
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> =====
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