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Hey thanks to everyone who pointed out it is online. I am at work and our firewall has it blocked but I was wondering??? I have no trouble using my 1202 VLZ I got on ebay so I never went looking for the manual. I do have the old 1604 manual and I still have the mixer too along with 3 other mixers.... Sometimes my mind wanders.... If only I could summon it back.... Weg