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The thing about "live looping" is that most people who've heard the term before, tend to think of 4/4 ebow frippertronics. It's not always correct, but it's human nature to stereotype. I applaud folks like Rick who are trying to expand what people think of as "live looping". Personally, I often describe my equipment interaction as "real-time sampling" which includes the looping, fx, and things like the casio SK1. It seems like the more I do music, the less labeling it seems to help. Sure, labels are great in pointing people in the right direction. There are too many labels now (thanks to Techno trying to make itself sound more interesting), and lately I find it really difficult to get someone interested in what I do, with a verbal description. I feel really lucky to be in the music community I'm in (sf bay area), which includes electronic & acoustic musicians, electro-acoustic musicians, free-jazzers, jazz-dislikers, noise people, "quiet" freaks, laptoppers, academics & loopers. We have Mills College nearby, which I originally discounted as "academic", but works as a magnet for pulling in lots of amazing, open minded people. I just met a guy a few weeks ago who does prepared & "real-time sampled" pedal steel guitar. Last night I played with a guy who uses only 2 cd-dj units, and makes it musical! I guess my point is... do what you do... worry about naming it later. Sorry, I'm sleepy, and I need to go home. _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp