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RE: hi guys--please help



i saw Joe Arthur perfrom and I think he might use the Line 6 (the green one.) i think it may be that he just has a great sense of timing.
 
damon
-----Original Message-----
From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@looppool.info]
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:25 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: hi guys--please help

Perhaps Joseph Aurthur is using the replace function on his Jamman?  The Jamman allows you to operate in replace mode, meaning, ( and this works best when  sending midi clock  to the jamman from a midi  drum machine or sequencer), rather  than having to switch to,  or create new loops, you can simply replace the previous loop with new material., but you need to be able to have some kind of time keeping element in the form of a midi clock , drum machine, etc. otherwise with the exception of very short loop phrase of a measure or so,  its difficult to keep from dragging or speeding up during replace.  Its pretty seemless once you get the hang of it.  I toggle in and out  of overdub and replace all the time when using my jamman.  I do this on the Repeater as well, as it saves memory and allows the music to morph more.  I think this type of feature exitsts on the EDP as well ,but not on the floor loopers.  I'd be curious to know if he is hearing a click or drumpart live through in ear monitors, otherwise he just has a phenomenal sense of time.
Hope that might shed some light
Bill walker
 
 
 
 
 From: mizfeldman@bluefrog.com [mailto:mizfeldman@bluefrog.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:29 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: hi guys--please help

I'm using a Boss RC-20, trying to loop full songs by either creating a chord progression for a whole song, then overdubbing, or stringing together verse and chorus phrases.  My music is like Joseph Arthur's--singer-songwriter, guitar-based with electronic influences--and I'm heavily into overdubbing voice and guitar. 
 
Anyway, the RC-20's not working for me because syncing phrases on-the-fly is virtually impossible, from what I can tell, even with my Boss FS-5U footpedal.  (My rhythms are too complex for that dumb 4/4 quantize.)  Also, I want to do whole sets of 3-5 minute songs, and the RC-20 can't handle that much information.  I want to be able to cut-and-paste phrases, too.
 
I've read all the specs on looper's delight and searched the archive, and I still can't figure out how to do what Joseph Arthur is doing with the JamMan--he does whole songs on-the-fly with tons of overdubs.
 
So:
 
1. Does anyone use the RC-20 for gigging, and if so, how do you make use of it? 
 
2.  Should I buy another looper?  I need a lot of memory, etc.--is EDP my only real option?
 
3.  What about using a Zoom MRS-802CD or other digital recorder with a looping function?  Does anyone use one of these onstage? 
 
Any comments would be most welcome.
 
Paula