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Krispen Hartung Records only means that I am my own record company, for branding purposes and an overall umbrella for multiple CDs. These days anyone can claim themselves as a record label (I did submit it on a few label registries), regardles of whether you manufacturing your own CDs or sub-contract. I'm independent, and the label thing is really for marketing purposes. But to your other point, I did have my CDs manufactured by a company, who provided the UPC barcoded, which is required by most major online distributors....and in actuality the Orchard is a label as well. This is why you see my CD twice on Amazon, once under my name and again under the Orchard. This is not uncommon. I submitted my music through the Amazon Advantage program (you can Google search on that) before I knew about the Orchard. After I submitted at the Orchard, it proliferated everywhere. I didn't even need to submit at Amazon myself, except that the turn-around time and customer service with them is more direct through the Advantage program. Kris -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters [mailto:mpeters@csi.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:54 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: nu music (ways to promote) > Every little bit counts. After I submitted or linked to my music with > the above sites, as well as Amazon.com, the Orchard, and CD Baby, my > music started to spread across the internet and search engines like > wildfire. I wonder what you did exactly with your CD. Does 'Krispen Hartung Records' mean that you had some company burn a number of CDs for you from your CDR? Did you then go to the Orchard with it? Did you submit your music to the above sites first (and how did you do that, submit to Amazon, say?), or did the Orchard do that for you? -Michael www.michaelpeters.de