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yes... it runs away quite appallingly! :-) yes... i'm using the xlrs unbalanced into and out of the mixer i've had the unit open and, listening with my usual piezo earpiece, i can't find the feedback loop - must be in the DSP. :-( i was hoping to find the loop coming through a pair of wires... nigel ------- Original message ------- From: Catilyne <catilyne@icicle.net> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:29:03 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: Echo Pro - technical ping-pong Reposting this because one of my SMTP servers is being stupid. Apologies if this comes through twice... >This is brilliant! And I'm wondering if those individuals working with >unbalanced signals could do the same by x-connecting the balanced XLR I/O. > >Tell me: have you run into problems with "runaway" echo effects? I could >imagine that if you're not very careful with your gain staging you could >get into trouble; having the echos cascade into a writhing wall of white >noise. That could be a nice effect in itself. However, given some of >the >complaints I've seen on the list regarding individuals blowing up the >input stage of their DL-4's with too much signal, I'm always a bit >careful >with the levels going into my Echo Pro. (Just in case....) > >More to your original question, though, if you're accomplishing this via >physical connection outside the unit, I don't see why you wouldn't be >able >to do the same by physically connecting the jacks inside the unit. You'd >have to have some decent soldering skills -- and it would most likely >render the jacks useless for anything else -- but the only other thing I >can think of would be testing the impedance and possibly inserting a >resistor or capacitor in line to make certain everything matched up. > >Actually, I think I'd probably contact a reliable repair tech. It seems >like an easy mod, but you'd probably best leave it in the hands of >someone >who deals with this sort of thing daily. You never know if there are >rattlesnakes waiting that you might miss. That said, my first impression >is still that I think you should be able to make it permanent if you wish. > > -c- Capital One Classic Mastercard 60 second response online. http://mocda.com/1/c/681064/117934/307081/307081 AOL users go here http://mocda.com/1/c/681064/117934/307081/307081