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I'm in the same camp as Mark here. I have caused the Repeater to crash in the past. Intuitively I stay away from the type of behavior that caused those crashes. This is how I approach all gear. Find out what it does best and do it. Stay away from the stuff that acts wonky. Kill all expectations. We all have to do this with our computers no? It's been a few years since my Repeater has caused any sort of problem. Though I bet Zoe could make it misbehave :) My Repeater used to crash every once and a while, but I figured it out. It was me. I can't remember exactly what I was doing, but it happened like clockwork if I pressed the wrong button when trying to erase a loop... I think. Now I can't remember. I bet if you search the archives for "Repeater crash" you'll find my post. I guess I don't do it any more because I have not had a single crash in years. Mark __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail