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I saw a comedian on (I think) Conan O'Brian. He was talking about his baby and music. He wanted the baby to get exposure to all the music he loved, including Black Sabbath. He said, "You know what? Babies don't like Black Sabbath. It makes them cry. They like 'Where is Thumbkin.' 'Where is Thumbkin' is their 'Freebird'. If you were all babies and I was singing 'Where is Thumbkin', you'd all have your lighters up singing 'Where is thumbkin, where is thumbkin, here I am, here I am...'" This guy is in the process of finishing a book along these lines: http://www.completechords.com/Pages_Pathway_Books/Book_How_Music_REALLY_Work s.htm Unfortunately, he removed the sample chapters for revision. I have the old chapter's 1-4 here at home in PDF. It's hard to describe how good this guy's approach is. Though I could do without his attempts at humor every other sentence. He writes so that non-musicians could understand it, but musicians will get much more out of it. I'm looking forward to the hardcopy publication when he's done. BTW, happy father's day to any dad's out there. :) I'm off to the zoo with my daughter. -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:per@boysen.se] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:47 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: : Decyphering the Grammar of Mind, Music and Math On 2004-06-20, at 00.29, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: > I found this article from today's NY Times very thought provoking and > am forwarding it in hopes that you will as well, and that it can > stimulate some interesting discussion. Looping and mathematics are of > course related, in somewhat different ways than more taditional forms > of music making. > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/19/arts/19CONN.html? >> ex=1088683885&ei=1&en=6ec7344cc1438127 >> > Very interesting and inspiring. THanks! Just about the perfect breakfast reading over here at this moment :-) As "music can be comprehended in a locked room" every human seems as well to have the built in radar to pick it up by default. I use to think back to the time of my childhood, many years before I "was told about music" or even took an active interest in music. What strikes me is that being only four years old I recognized the same criteria that I still enjoy as parts of "music". I heard "unison lines", "octaves", "fifths", "clusters" and all kinds of stuff that I had to wait two decades to get the names for. So from my own life experience I am pretty sure that music is universal. A funny memory is that some music that was held in great aspect by grown-ups, really hurt my senses at that early age. I never understood why but it just made me feel sick and depressed. Some decades later, now as a grown-up myself, i found myself taking pleasure in some of that "torture music". Per Boysen