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At 07:49 29/06/04, you wrote: >I was a little surprised that you can't do an unquantized insert, such >as starting with a loop of 10 seconds, insert 2, and end up with a loop >of 12 seconds. Perhaps not very musically useful, pretty much essential if the EDP isn't synced to a device that gives you the timing. > but it seemed like >a curious omission given the mayhem you can accomplish with >Unrounded Multiply. Is this because it complicates synchronization? As you realised later, InsertMode=SUS does this. But it's also possible to end the Insert with Record, just the same as for Multiply. >The manual states "When Quantize=On, a press of the Insert button >will cause insertion to start at the beginning of the next cycle". >Quantize has three "on" values: cycle, sub-cycle, and loop. When >starting an Insert, are all three of these treated as if they >were "cycle", or is it possible to quantize the beginning >of an insert to a sub-cycle or loop? Yes, that's a fault in the manual. In Loop3 there was only Quant=CYC ( or OFF), and it seems that sentence didn't get updated to cover the new settings. 8th Quant and LoopQuant were a very late addition to the loop4 features, all functions that are "quantisable" are affected by these. andy butler.