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http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/granulab.shtml http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Granny.htm Rick, The web pages above say: "GranuLab is a realtime generator of sound grains for Windows 95" "GranuLab makes sound in real time by generating masses of sound "grains" (usually chopped from one of your soundfiles). Built and tested under Windows 95/98 and Windows 2000. No reports of problems under XP yet." Tom -----Original Message----- From: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:57 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: Miyalls Davis Loop It sounds like you are using our good buddy Ras Ekmusan's Granulab, nicht wahr? I wonder if this technique could be used in real time. Rick