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Thanks to both of you. At least now I've got something to start playing around with. Tom ************************* I know about Tempo Select for setting the loop length/time but about the auto record triggered by a note I am not sure perhaps in MIDI. The only autorecord function I ever used is when you have multiple loops and press the next loop button. You can set your machine to say loop 2 reset that loop and then do a next loop and if that loop were empty it would start recording but, I don't think that is what you want. I usually set recordmode and overdub to SUS as opposed to TOG and count out my loop length to get what I want with TOG I can get Glitchy short overdubs mostly cause I screw up with TOG and don't get the results I want (but that is just me) Alan This is possible by setting the tempo with TempoSelect--press Undo with Sync=Out. Tempo LEDs will flash, you can then change the tempo with the feedback knob, and fine tune it with Insert and Mute. A short press on Undo then locks the tempo; a long press exits this state. Dunno if the loop will then exit recording at the end, but it definitely sets the length-- And of course the trigger function is available to begin recording when audio is introduced to the EDP. Gary ________________________________ From: Tom Rex [mailto:tomrex1@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:37 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Echoplex questions for beginners I'm trying to do something with the Echoplex that I can do with the Fantom S. With the Fantom S, you just set your tempo, and the length of your loop, and it starts recording when you play your 1st note, and goes into overdub at the end of the 1st loop . I assume that this is a possibility with the latest Echoplex software? Can someone please point me to where it discusses how to do this in the documentation. Thank you very much! Tom