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> Can anyone out in Portland point me towards some suitable venues for acoustic guitar live looping? You know, coffeehouse type places where I can put out a tip jar and play a couple of sets accompanied by the milk steamer. I've heard that referred to as Playing in the Key of Steam Kevin How amazing, how amazing! Hard to comprehend that Nonsentient beings expound Dharma. It simply cannot be heard with the ear, But when sound is heard with the eye, Then it is understood. - Tung-shan (807-869) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org