RE: kim's post, athlon processors, et. al.

["Lance Zechinato" <LanceZechinato@verizon.net>]

Agreed.  As a pc user from the beginning, and still a fan of XP, I've heard
no practical arguments against Mac except cost.  And when you factor in 
time
vs. cost, Mac wins.

It took a colleague showing off his OSX notebook to finally tip the scales
for me.  I don't own a Mac yet, but I'm convinced that from here on out all
new computers for me will be Mac... for audio and software development.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:58 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: kim's post, athlon processors, et. al.

On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:59 AM, loop.pool wrote:

>  I imagine that if you bought a dual processor G5 with maximum CPU
> speed and
> a good MOTU audio interface that you could probaby be humming in the
> first week of
> owning the system.   Just be prepared to lay out $3,000-$4,500 for
> such a
> system.

Don't imagine!  Just look!

First of all, you don't need a G5.  I don't even think DP4 has been
released as a 64 bit version.  If you want to be like me...

http://www.macmall.com/macmall/families/powermac/

So that's $1300, but comes with an extra half gig of ram.  Useful.

A MOTU 828mkII will set you back $750 and comes with a decent version
of Digital performer that would probably satisfy most people's needs.

So you're up around the $2K mark and "weeee!" you're up and running.
Chipset?  What?  BIOS?  Huh?  Sounds to me that you need to do a solid
week of research to figure out what PC to buy if you're not already an
expert.  So, I'll tack on another grand to the PC setup to cover 2 days
of my time.  That puts the Rick's PC's actual cost to me at $1700.
$400 higher than the Mac in the above link AND you get a Mac.  PCs are
cheaper if you do not value your time.  If you're unemployed they're a
steal.  I swear, I bought my Mac, plugged it in, installed my software
and was up and running without a hitch ever since.

Rick, did you include the price of the 2 machines (that probably end up
having little or no resale value.  Exactly like all computers) you had
to discard before you got someone to build you the one that works for
you?

And lastly, forget about "price" but what about cost?  By cost I mean
the fact that you're contributing to Bill Gates (a major supporter of
George Bush) and his soulless minions.  Can you sleep at night? ;)

Mark