mac vs pc

["Jens Wolters" <shocktone@gmx.de>]

Hi guys,

about this whole MAC vs PC thing. I used to sell Audio PCs some time ago.
Of course my PCs worked. But with the right hardware and setup. They werent
much cheaper than a MAC. But alot faster.
Now with the release of the G5 the speed issue changed. I like to tweak my
PC and program alot. So I'll stay to my PC.
It works great and runs 100% stable with nuendo and RME hardware. If you
just want to plugin and start without tweaking and taking care
of your system. Go and buy a Mac. That doesnt mean, the Mac won't crash ;)
Both are professional solutions. But if you buy a really cheap PC (with
really cheap motherboard and RAM) you probably will get some problems.

Greetings Jens.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: kim's post, yadda yadda yadda


> On Aug 3, 2004, at 4:31 AM, loop.pool wrote:
>
> > Fry's had a deal last week on a
> > P4 1.8 mghz PC with 512 megs of RAM, a 40 gig harddrive and a CD/RW
> > burner/DVD player
> > for $399.
> >
> > Tell me that Macs are cheaper than PCs.
>
> Will that machine do audio well?  According to your previous posts
> about your problems, probably not.  I bought a really nice toaster oven
> the other day for $100.  It's also cheaper than a Mac, but doesn't work
> well doing digital audio.
>
> > Now, Mark.........................let's be honest:
> >
> > what do extra hardrives and CD burners and printers and scanners cost
> > for
> > Macs?what do they cost for PCs?   There is no denying that PCs are
> > cheaper so
> > let's call a spade a spade.
>
> Let's call a spade a spade.  Macs now use IDE perfs as well as USB.
> They cost *exactly the same* for both platforms.  I have no idea what
> you're talking about chum.  I think you're thinking of 1995 when Macs
> used SCSI and ADB.
>
> > I totally get that Macs are easier to run out of the box, but if you
> > are
> > comparing buying
> > used Macs and used 828s then you have to apply the same standards to
> > used
> > PCs where the prices are even cheaper (except for the break out boxes).
>
> Read Rick.  One word after the other.  You know, like drums.  Te te, te
> te, ta.  The link I offered was for a brand new (although discontinued
> but still viable) G4 as well as the best price I could find with the
> 828mkII
>
> >
> > I really don't want to be coming off as being down on the
> > Macs.................I just get a little sick and tired of the
> > superiority
> > that a lot of Mac users exhibit towards Windows users.
>
> I'm a lot sick of PC users complaining about how they can't figure out
> what to buy or getting what they bought to work.  Let's be sick
> together!
> >
>
> > We all do the best we can with the tools that we have and afford.
> > It's
> > easy to sit high and mighty; judging other's below your economic
> > status for
> > their compromises when you have a really nice salary, but not everyone
> > is
> > where you are at financially, Mark (and I know that you aren't even in
> > the
> > upper middle class in your economic bracket)
>
> I don't no, I was making music on a Mac when I was in college making
> $5000 a year working part time in a sock store.  That wasn't so long
> ago.  I didn't have the software selection that PC users did, but I
> honestly had no choice going into graphics.  There are still issues
> with color proofing on the PC that makes it unusable for what I do.
>
> > I have tried, over and over, in this discussion to give respect and to
> > praise the benefits of the wonderful Mac OS X.
> > It would be nice for someone from that camp (and I NEVER hear it from
> > them)
> > that there might be some reasons why people chose the PC.
>
> Why?  PCs don't seem to have trouble flying off the shelf.  Everyone
> knows they do simply because they're cheap.
>
> >
> > Stratocasters versus Les Pauls.    They can both be great and we use
> > what
> > tools we have to be creative.
> > Les Pauls are horribly overpriced but they do incredible things (things
> > Stratocasters can't do).  Should I put someone down for using one if
> > they
> > can afford it?   Was Hendrix fucked for using one (and supporting the
> > economic status quo for doing it?).
>
> I don't even think that argument applies.  We're talking about
> platforms for computers.
>
> >
> > It should really be about what we create, I think.
> >
> >
>
> Me too.
>
> Mark
>