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I don't think you can be free of many criticisms when you get as large as they are. On the other hand, in my opinion they have done some good things: 1. Made coffee shops destination spots again. Before the 90's coffee shops were seriously out of vogue in the states. 2. They have provided money and training to growers in South America and other lands to increase production of GOURMET coffee beans. 3. They upped the standards other coffee shops have to attain to if they want to truly serve a good cup of coffee. There are better places than Starbucks, but across the board Starbucks is decent coffee.) 4. In my experience have been great with local musicians and supporting local music. 5. Have provided several of my friends with a good job with benefits while they were going to school. I have more, but I'll stop there for now. DM -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 5:48 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Off Topic? I'll give you Off Topic!! > OK, here's one-- > Why is Starbucks evil? Or rather, how? Why? Only they can answer. How? Here are two examples: 1. No sense of humor and a litigious tendency: http://www.illegal-art.org/print/popups/consumer.html Covered also at: http://dir.salon.com/business/feature/2000/06/01/starbuckssuit/index.html 2. Starbucks tried to charge paramedics for water while they were attempting to help victims on Sept. 11: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/40164_robert25.shtml Normally I give everyone three chances. In this case I made an exception - #2 almost counts for two items on its own. That said, one should wear a Consumer Whore t-shirt whenever possible, and into a Starbucks as many times as possible. Stephen Goodman * * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack