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Mark S wrote: True, they are amazingly evil and actually effect us as performers on some level. I know Gary likes to perform at Starbucks, but how many of us rely on Starbucks for a regular gig? Also, Boarders paying musicians? I played there several times and was never offered a cent. ---->I have never played IN a Starbuck, but there's one near me that I go to infrequently to practice looping and shoegaze. I always get a cup of house blend in a big ceramic mug, and no one has ever asked me to stop, but I also never make any money--I think it's avoiding eye contact that keeps me unmolested/underpaid. Gary Thanks to all for your replies!