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>> Professionality and fulfilling different people's expectations Like I said (or at least meant) in an earlier cryptic post, I really think it's all in the delivery and to what level the artist has mastered his or her craft. If an artist can take an audience into the zone I think that's quite an accomplishment no matter how it was achieved. But if the audience feels mislead in some way it's over, so keeping it real is important. I'd have to agree that the more "live" a thing can be the more alive it will feel. Your comment about Beck seemed like a good example of "not alive". Maybe it was a bad night for him like you said. I never got to see The Propellerheads perform live (Alex Gifford & Will White), but apparently they used a lot of pre-recorded loops. They spun acetate recordings of their own playing (drums, bass, B3, Novation) and switched back and forth between instruments and DJing. I read that it was intense to watch and very entertaining. They're both exceptional musicians anyway, but to pull that off smoothly and still be entertaining is wild. Their "decksandrumsandrockandroll" album always sounded organic to me even though it's constructed of tons of loops of their own playing... no sequencing, just loops them playing their own instruments plus realtime material on top. But it's thick and intense, and hard to drive the speed limit when listening in the car.