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I don't have this device, but find what you've mentioned about it interesting. As far as it not being a looping device...I question this, if you do a pattern more than once using the device, such as chord progressions, then the device fits the criteria. From what I understand of this site, what defines looping here is somewhat blurred. However I do believe a loop of some kind needs to be a part of your setup considering the name. Oh well just throwing out some creative banter. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Martin Tauchen [mailto:cul-baisser@t-online.de] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: DOD Dimension 12 Hi, I am new to the list. I have a special relation to DODs Dimension 12.This thing is odd and really not a real looper device. Nevertheless I love this thing,because it is so basic and a little bit weird. The negative comments about this device tells stories enough at this Website... I enjoy working with it,because of some gimmicks it has.Especially the destructable Pitchchanging has a kind of marvelous live electronic. Anyway,I use the EDP Pro and also Software-Loopers. But the usage of the DOD is kind of irrational using. Anyone on the list,who wants to sell this device ? Marty