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Yep read em all (got a huge offline archive from this list ;D ) over the last (nearly) two years I'm glad I bought my last of the Beige Faces when I did it works well. -----Original Message----- From: Andy [mailto:andy.ewen@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:39 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price Yes, check the LD archive for much discussion on new hardware. It can all be summed in: 'if someone wants to fund it, we'll build it' -----Original Message----- From: Alan Kroeger [mailto:nospam@akroeger.com] Sent: 21 September 2004 20:17 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price Sounds like the EDP needs a new hardware platform I love the programming underlying the EDP but, time is marching on for the hardware. -----Original Message----- From: Andy [mailto:andy.ewen@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price I have no idea why Gibson has made this price increase and I will look into it. We are selling EDPs to them for the same price agreed nearly 2 years ago. No EDPs have been made for over a year due to the lack of payment to us from Gibson but a deal has been struck, (i.e. you pay up, we send EDPs), and the remainder of our stock is now moving. For any future production however, it's not about the technology getting cheaper; the technology used in the EDP is from the 90s and the parts are all going up in value. Many parts are not manufactured anymore but there is plenty of 'new old stock' which unscrupulous distributors make us pay through the nose for; $20 for the Crystal CODEC is a good example! As for memory, it hasn't been manufactured for years and is impossible to find in production quantities. I had the last 4MB SIMMs especially manufactured in the US and we bought 2500 pieces to get a price of $3 each. That's $12 a set at prime. None of this should have a bearing on any current stock though for the reasons mentioned previously. I couldn't possibly comment on any other reason why they might want more of everyone's hard-earned cash but those who know of the guy in charge can draw their own conclusions :) Andy Ewen, EDP Production Manager. (It's lucky that's not my only job or I'd have starved a long time ago) -----Original Message----- From: Brian [mailto:Brian@porterresearch.com] Sent: 21 September 2004 19:48 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price I was just about to get an Echoplex but then Gibson jacks up the price $150 in a period of two months!! This technology is getting cheaper, how could this happen? Has anyone else noticed this outrage? I've been a loyal Gibson customer for years, but this may very well change that. If they updated the memory again, I could understand, but no, they are still using memory that can be purchased for a couple of dollars. Anyone know where to get a new echoplex for a decent price?