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Re: Learning in Music, etc

I heard him sing it at the Fleet Center at the CSNY reunion few years
back...spine-tingling stuff. 


> [Original Message]
> From: L. Angulo <labalou2000@yahoo.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: 10/21/2004 6:35:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Learning in Music, etc
>
> Krisper read this comments from David Crosby on music
> education,when i listen to pieces like "Guinnevere" or
> Deja-vu is hard to believe that David wasn´t schooled
> at all.This pieces are so harmonically complex they
> can teach a lesson to any highly educated composer.I
> still get chills when i listen to them...
> Luis
> http://www.acousticguitar.com/issues/ag87/CoverStory.shtml
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> --- Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
>
> > Matthias: "while the learning really comes from
> > playing, and for this, I
> > contribute with instruments and music :-)"
> > 
> > Isn't this the truth! If I could only execute half
> > the theoretical music
> > and jazz theory academia in my brain, I'd be.....eh,
> > well, a player who
> > thinks too much and plays too many notes in
> > performances? ;)
> > 
> > Seriously, however, I am a huge proponent of
> > learning in music and
> > applying in performance. I think many musicians,
> > including myself, after
> > years of growing on our instruments begin to rest on
> > our laurels and
> > don't push ourselves anymore. I can hear it in the
> > playing of myself and
> > others. After a while we become cover musicians of
> > our own clichés and
> > performance styles.  Sure, we learn new gimmicks,
> > tricks, and clichés,
> > but I find that actual significant leaps in personal
> > musical growth are
> > difficult after playing for 25 years. It is easy to
> > use gear (looping
> > included) to hide behind this fact, but if we remove
> > all the loops,
> > gear, effects, and alterations, and then gaze upon
> > the naked notes and
> > raw playing, what is the net gain?  If we remove the
> > approving "ooohs
> > and awwws" of what we've done with our technical
> > savvy, what have we
> > accomplished artistically? (these are rhetorical
> > questions, by the way)
> > 
> > My last big spurt was when I joined a World-Beat
> > band, in which I also
> > learned the sitar.  I pushed myself to learn new
> > harmonic textures
> > (Eastern, Middle-Eastern, etc) and rhythms....and
> > that learning has
> > stuck with me for the long run.  And several years
> > before that it was
> > jazz, the biggest leap in my musical vocabulary and
> > expansion of my
> > musical palette(again, that painting analogy) to
> > eexpressmyself.  One
> > could ask, "who the heck cares that you can play a
> > melodic minor scale a
> > half step aabove an altered dominant chord to
> > generate interesting
> > tension and release with flat 9s, flat 5s, etc?" 
> > Well, at the moment,
> > that bit of theory would seem pedantic, but after
> > one internalizes and
> > consciously "forgets" the approach during live
> > performances, it can
> > still influence your playing and musical vocabulary
> > to express more
> > effectively.  It's the old saying about
> > theory...learn it, internalize
> > it, and then forget it.
> > 
> > One of my guitar mentors once said in a video if you
> > can just spend 10
> > minutes a day learning something new on your
> > instrument, whether it is a
> > new chord, scale, or improvisational technique, you
> > can improve
> > tremendously over time. It doesn't necessarily
> > require that Julliard
> > 8-hour a day routine. This is easier said than done,
> > of course...at the
> > end of the day, what I've done is tweaked more
> > knobs, modified more
> > parameters, and screwed with more MP3 files than
> > actually improving as a
> > musician.   
> > 
> > On accation, we should all lock ourselves in a room
> > for a week with
> > nothing but an acoustic instrument and tape recorder
> > and see if we come
> > out with something new in the end.  Of course, by
> > that time, some smart
> > ass would have re-wired the tape recorder to be a
> > looping device!  Heh
> > heh.
> > 
> > ********************************* 
> > Krispen Hartung 
> > http://www.krispenhartung.com 
> > info@krispenhartung.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> =====
> www.luis-angulo.com
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